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Post by enoch on Aug 17, 2021 21:20:09 GMT
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Post by stagnum on Aug 17, 2021 21:50:43 GMT
It was refreshing to see this thread deleted but now it's back to haunt us again like a new Covid variant. Grrr...
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Post by otiumvitae on Aug 18, 2021 21:01:10 GMT
Just read Delta variant more contagious but LESS deadly.....think thats really the important bit.
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Post by El Mel on Aug 19, 2021 5:37:50 GMT
Do you know, nobody gives a fuck about it here. Wife's mate is here this week visiting and she tells us theres still loads of paranoia filling people in the UK.
Can't really comment as I'm not there, but if that's the case, why?
Wait while the winter when cases start climbing, there'll be arses falling out left right and centre.
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Post by londontown on Aug 19, 2021 11:44:15 GMT
Do you know, nobody gives a fuck about it here. Wife's mate is here this week visiting and she tells us theres still loads of paranoia filling people in the UK. Can't really comment as I'm not there, but if that's the case, why? Wait while the winter when cases start climbing, there'll be arses falling out left right and centre. It has been like that for a long time in Scandinavia. The irrational politics being witnessed in Oz and NZ helps no one, save for a few big businesses of course. |
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Post by thesyrup on Aug 19, 2021 13:57:39 GMT
Spoke to my neighbours this morning, They are both off work as they have both tested positive for covid, neither of them said they really feel that un well, both of them have had both their jabs, both of em said they will be having a booster when they can, wtf.
I tell you what, neither of them are what i would call healthy, they have a takeaway delivered nigh on every other night, Yet they look at me like i am an idiot when i said i had just returned from a 4 hour 20k walk with the dog and i hadnt had nor have i any intention of having any jabs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 15:22:58 GMT
Do you know, nobody gives a fuck about it here. Wife's mate is here this week visiting and she tells us theres still loads of paranoia filling people in the UK. Can't really comment as I'm not there, but if that's the case, why? Wait while the winter when cases start climbing, there'll be arses falling out left right and centre. My experience is that there's very little "paranoia" here in the UK. The vast majority of people are getting on with their lives and being respectful to the small section of society who want to continue to remain a bit separated (which could be for perfectly valid reasons). Return to office work is a bit slow. But - people want to avoid commutes if they have an excuse don't they, so thats kind of understandable (I've worked primarily from home since December 1999 - so no change for me whatsoever). There IS widespread paranoia in countries like New Zealand and Australia, who seem to be cracking on with arbitrary lock downs when there's one or a handful of cases (CASE - not a person ill or dying or dead, just CASES) where the response seems to be to point an accusatory finger at the UK running amok and point at all the dirty disease ridden populace who "don't care" that they're killing grandma. Most pubs are normal, (and those few that are sticking to table service only seem to be rapidly finding out that they're losing customers), football was back to normal. Shops are back to normal. The concern is this >> www.datawrapper.de/_/xOWh5/ The NHS has lost thousands of beds over the last 20 years, and constantly runs relatively close to capacity. Covid itself is not a major burden on the NHS as you can clearly see, but what it is, is a burden that is controllable (via lockdowns etc), compared to the vast majority of non Covid hospital bed occupancy...it doesn't take much before that spare capacity gets swallowed up. The answer is pretty simple. |
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Post by londontown on Aug 19, 2021 15:46:12 GMT
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Post by londontown on Aug 20, 2021 10:48:59 GMT
Many health care workers are refusing the vaccine. They were treated like heroes during the shit storm, but now they feel like they are being treated like zeros for exercising their personal choice. I'm with them. It should be a matter of personal choice. It's about 1 in 4 refusing it in the US! www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2021/covid-19-vaccine-refusal-higher-among-health-and-social-care-workers-who-feelHealth and social care workers who felt under greater pressure from their employers to receive COVID-19 vaccination were more likely to decline it, according to preliminary new research highlighting factors influencing uptake. |
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Post by enoch on Aug 20, 2021 11:09:11 GMT
I'll tell you something. I never get I'll, once a blue moon, but since I've had that first jab I'm constantly run down with something. Most likely a coincidence but I just dont feel right.
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Post by frankiesleftpeg on Aug 20, 2021 12:30:50 GMT
Many health care workers are refusing the vaccine. They were treated like heroes during the shit storm, but now they feel like they are being treated like zeros for exercising their personal choice. I'm with them. It should be a matter of personal choice. It's about 1 in 4 refusing it in the US! www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2021/covid-19-vaccine-refusal-higher-among-health-and-social-care-workers-who-feelHealth and social care workers who felt under greater pressure from their employers to receive COVID-19 vaccination were more likely to decline it, according to preliminary new research highlighting factors influencing uptake.Its their choice but they can't complain if they're dropping like flies again in the winter. |
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Post by londontown on Aug 20, 2021 12:40:48 GMT
Many health care workers are refusing the vaccine. They were treated like heroes during the shit storm, but now they feel like they are being treated like zeros for exercising their personal choice. I'm with them. It should be a matter of personal choice. It's about 1 in 4 refusing it in the US! www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2021/covid-19-vaccine-refusal-higher-among-health-and-social-care-workers-who-feelHealth and social care workers who felt under greater pressure from their employers to receive COVID-19 vaccination were more likely to decline it, according to preliminary new research highlighting factors influencing uptake.Its their choice but they can't complain if they're dropping like flies again in the winter. Well, the care workers in question have survived up until now, and they've been the most exposed to it. Acquired immunity is always far superior. The vaccinated are still getting it. A niece and nephew of mine have had mild doses (flu symptoms), but no worse than their vaccinated friends. |
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Post by frankiesleftpeg on Aug 20, 2021 13:18:35 GMT
Its their choice but they can't complain if they're dropping like flies again in the winter. Well, the care workers in question have survived up until now, and they've been the most exposed to it. Acquired immunity is always far superior. The vaccinated are still getting it. A niece and nephew of mine have had mild doses (flu symptoms), but no worse than their vaccinated friends. I don't doubt that acquired immunity plays its part, but there are a lot of obese people working in the nhs and they're the ones who are likely to suffer the most if they catch it. The vaccine gives them more of a chance of a less serious illness or even death.
As I said its their choice. |
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Post by thesyrup on Aug 20, 2021 13:58:19 GMT
Its their choice but they can't complain if they're dropping like flies again in the winter. Well, the care workers in question have survived up until now, and they've been the most exposed to it. Acquired immunity is always far superior. The vaccinated are still getting it. A niece and nephew of mine have had mild doses (flu symptoms), but no worse than their vaccinated friends. Bang on, The only folk who i know who are now testing positive now have had their jabs, I worked in a care home and still speak to half a dozen folk who still work there, None of them are having any jabs. As they say, they all think they have already had a dose of it, nobody died. Indeed, as i have said before, Where i worked there were 3 separate occasions where the 3 (3 different each time ) folk i worked with as a team all tested positive, i tested negative each time, The guy we were looking after was fine too,,, So why on earth should i have a jab to protect me from something that hasnt bothered me in the slightest so far, none of those who were positive were badly and all said like "mild flu",,, nobody died nor were they hospitalised, Besides which it is quite clear now that having a jab does not stop you catching covid nor does it stop you from passing it on. Am pretty sure that if they had a test that worked they would imo say i have some covid anti bodies from somewhere. And if i havent got antibodies and i catch it and die, well thats mother nature, I can also guarantee you all that before they put me down and wheel some zombie journalist in to record my last words, they wont be " ooh i wish i had the jab tell everyone they should get it ",,, " it will be fuck off, give me some more morphine" |
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Post by londontown on Aug 20, 2021 14:04:00 GMT
Well, the care workers in question have survived up until now, and they've been the most exposed to it. Acquired immunity is always far superior. The vaccinated are still getting it. A niece and nephew of mine have had mild doses (flu symptoms), but no worse than their vaccinated friends. I don't doubt that acquired immunity plays its part, but there are a lot of obese people working in the nhs and they're the ones who are likely to suffer the most if they catch it. The vaccine gives them more of a chance of a less serious illness or even death.
As I said its their choice. Fair point. Those with co-morbidities might be better off getting it. |
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