Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 7:34:46 GMT
Got one of those big padlocks to end this nonsense Mel ?? I woukd agree with this too. Nice to see the person Steve is though. One who can't let something go. Probably got his ex tied up in the cellar
|
|
|
Post by enoch on Sept 14, 2021 8:39:42 GMT
All i can make of this from afar is some guys been verbally a prick to those around him, with a few lighthearted 'sexist'comments. Hes then being paraded online, judged as guilty (no ones yet to provide audio evidence) and thus being discriminated against based on his age and looks. Not to mention some more personal abuse directed at his family on twitter. I think alleged perpertrator and those ousting him online should take a long hard look at themselves. If it wasnt for the fact the worlds gone completely mental in the last decade, i wouldnt have believed this was such a big bloody deal at a FOOTBALL match and on a FOOTBALL forum. Jesus Enoch. I’m no P-C brigade type but ffs what has the last 10 years of mentalness got to do with a town fan abusing a fellow town fan?? We don’t need video evidence when several people are saying the same thing. His pissed up denial to digs doesn’t wash. I'm just saying from what hes apparently claimed to gave said then it's all rather OTT. A sandwich comment and a few swear words thrown around wouldn't have even made me blink at a football match. Theres no evidence, so how do we know what constitutes 'sexist' remarks in the apparent victims eyes. I'm not saying insults towards women is okay at football, it's not. I'm saying without real evidence rather than hearsay, and with the current climate of over sensitivity then we cant really judge.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 9:02:19 GMT
Its all getting a bit like a storm in a teacup now! He said this. She said that. Blah blah blah. Its a disagreement at a footy match not WW3. No physical violence involved so why not just let it all die a death now. What it is that makes people so offended by mere words these days that they have to turn it into a major drama? ☹️ The polarising impact of social media and a worldwide soap-box does tend to blow things out of all proportion.
|
|
digs
Full Member
Posts: 210
|
Post by digs on Sept 14, 2021 9:23:53 GMT
Its all getting a bit like a storm in a teacup now! He said this. She said that. Blah blah blah. Its a disagreement at a footy match not WW3. No physical violence involved so why not just let it all die a death now. What it is that makes people so offended by mere words these days that they have to turn it into a major drama? ☹️ The polarising impact of social media and a worldwide soap-box does tend to blow things out of all proportion. It's been said it was put on twitter to show awareness,it's also caused threats to his wife and son,bad enough to have the police round,I though the correct way was to let stewards know if a problem occurs in a stadium,even contact the club maybe,not sure putting a person's face on twitter is the right way about it.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 10:20:41 GMT
The polarising impact of social media and a worldwide soap-box does tend to blow things out of all proportion. It's been said it was put on twitter to show awareness,it's also caused threats to his wife and son,bad enough to have the police round,I though the correct way was to let stewards know if a problem occurs in a stadium,even contact the club maybe,not sure putting a person's face on twitter is the right way about it. Ridiculous really. I'm sure in the cold light of day he regrets what he said (if he's done what was suggested...although calling someone a cunt in the context of an argument, or asking them to make you a sandwich doesn't seem the most heinous of crimes to me!) and the public witch hunt he's been targeted with will only have brought that into starker focus. One of those situations you occasionally see at a footy match where a little pocket of anger flares up, stewards come along, everyone shouts at each other for a bit, and then it calms down with the aggressor either backing off, or gets removed from the situation and then ends up being ejected, or found another seat to diffuse it....and he thinks, "oh, I won't do that again - I kind of wanted to watch the footy with my mates", and its all dealt with on the day. Judgement by social media invariably becomes a 'guilty until proven innocent' situation, which goes totally against the accepted standard. The Examiner blurred the picture, the lady who posted it originally probably needs to ask herself why they did so, and reflect on that.
|
|
|
Post by londontown on Sept 14, 2021 12:38:02 GMT
Trouble is, it's allegations first and facts second in today's social media climate. Twitter is the new Salem.
All the same, the various claims need to be checked.
|
|
|
Post by steve4htafc on Sept 14, 2021 22:58:51 GMT
It's called a dig, digs! So what's your motivation average sized man? Or small if you prefer. Why can't he defend himself, he isn't banned, unlike over there. defend himself on here would end in chaos with you,get off my back now Get off your back; what's up you delicate flower? You're sticking up for a bloke who called two women cunts, and you're winning on here like a pussy! It seems you hadn't noticed I haven't commented on this topic for a while. Well as you haven't responded to my independent observations in a sensible, or might I say respectful way, perhaps saying you would feed back to your mate that observers who weren't even involved thought he acted inappropriately, even illegally, perhaps even coming back proffering an apology; I concluded best thing would be to write to the club, see if some recognition for his wrongdoings might result through that route. So, you probably did your mate a disservice as I substantiated what I observed and even offered a statement for the Police, if requested; there may be few lessons there if you can get your brain round it.
|
|
digs
Full Member
Posts: 210
|
Post by digs on Sept 14, 2021 23:52:08 GMT
defend himself on here would end in chaos with you,get off my back now Get off your back; what's up you delicate flower? You're sticking up for a bloke who called two women cunts, and you're winning on here like a pussy! It seems you hadn't noticed I haven't commented on this topic for a while. Well as you haven't responded to my independent observations in a sensible, or might I say respectful way, perhaps saying you would feed back to your mate that observers who weren't even involved thought he acted inappropriately, even illegally, perhaps even coming back proffering an apology; I concluded best thing would be to write to the club, see if some recognition for his wrongdoings might result through that route. So, you probably did your mate a disservice as I substantiated what I observed and even offered a statement for the Police, if requested; there may be few lessons there if you can get your brain round it. delicate flower?
|
|
|
Post by El Mel on Sept 15, 2021 4:09:28 GMT
defend himself on here would end in chaos with you,get off my back now Get off your back; what's up you delicate flower? You're sticking up for a bloke who called two women cunts, and you're winning on here like a pussy! It seems you hadn't noticed I haven't commented on this topic for a while. Well as you haven't responded to my independent observations in a sensible, or might I say respectful way, perhaps saying you would feed back to your mate that observers who weren't even involved thought he acted inappropriately, even illegally, perhaps even coming back proffering an apology; I concluded best thing would be to write to the club, see if some recognition for his wrongdoings might result through that route. So, you probably did your mate a disservice as I substantiated what I observed and even offered a statement for the Police, if requested; there may be few lessons there if you can get your brain round it. Steve. Stop being a twat, or you'll be getting the accolade of the first person to be banned from the forum where nobody is banned. digs has made it completely clear that he's only reporting the guys own version of events and questioning whether plastering his face on social media is a good idea, when it has resulted in apparent threats made against his family. If you are happy to go and stand in a courtroom to have the fella convicted, then shouldn't you really be saving your evidence until then, or do you want a trial by social media as well?? Up to you buddy. I think everybody has taken your own personal account of what you saw and heard on board, incuding digs, but if you are now just spoiling for a petty argument you can fuck off back to DATM and have it on there with somebody more willing.
|
|
|
Post by realmadkid on Sept 15, 2021 7:06:48 GMT
Get off your back; what's up you delicate flower? You're sticking up for a bloke who called two women cunts, and you're winning on here like a pussy! It seems you hadn't noticed I haven't commented on this topic for a while. Well as you haven't responded to my independent observations in a sensible, or might I say respectful way, perhaps saying you would feed back to your mate that observers who weren't even involved thought he acted inappropriately, even illegally, perhaps even coming back proffering an apology; I concluded best thing would be to write to the club, see if some recognition for his wrongdoings might result through that route. So, you probably did your mate a disservice as I substantiated what I observed and even offered a statement for the Police, if requested; there may be few lessons there if you can get your brain round it. Steve. Stop being a twat, or you'll be getting the accolade of the first person to be banned from the forum where nobody is banned. digs has made it completely clear that he's only reporting the guys own version of events and questioning whether plastering his face on social media is a good idea, when it has resulted in apparent threats made against his family. If you are happy to go and stand in a courtroom to have the fella convicted, then shouldn't you really be saving your evidence until then, or do you want a trial by social media as well?? Up to you buddy. I think everybody has taken your own personal account of what you saw and heard on board, incuding digs, but if you are now just spoiling for a petty argument you can fuck off back to DATM and have it on there with somebody more willing. 100 likes from me!
|
|
|
Post by steve4htafc on Sept 15, 2021 8:47:13 GMT
Get off your back; what's up you delicate flower? You're sticking up for a bloke who called two women cunts, and you're winning on here like a pussy! It seems you hadn't noticed I haven't commented on this topic for a while. Well as you haven't responded to my independent observations in a sensible, or might I say respectful way, perhaps saying you would feed back to your mate that observers who weren't even involved thought he acted inappropriately, even illegally, perhaps even coming back proffering an apology; I concluded best thing would be to write to the club, see if some recognition for his wrongdoings might result through that route. So, you probably did your mate a disservice as I substantiated what I observed and even offered a statement for the Police, if requested; there may be few lessons there if you can get your brain round it. Steve. Stop being a twat, or you'll be getting the accolade of the first person to be banned from the forum where nobody is banned. digs has made it completely clear that he's only reporting the guys own version of events and questioning whether plastering his face on social media is a good idea, when it has resulted in apparent threats made against his family. If you are happy to go and stand in a courtroom to have the fella convicted, then shouldn't you really be saving your evidence until then, or do you want a trial by social media as well?? Up to you buddy. I think everybody has taken your own personal account of what you saw and heard on board, incuding digs, but if you are now just spoiling for a petty argument you can fuck off back to DATM and have it on there with somebody more willing. How about some respect for innocent parties here? You know, all those fans at Stoke that had suffered the abuse! All those fans who showed restraint throughout the match by not imposing their collective objections to what was happening throughout, & thereby avoided a nasty physical event. At no time have I condoned what people are saying on social media that bring this into play for his wife or kids, in fact I condemn that. However, you can't defend the indefensible and it is offensive to spread lies about what happened to suck up to those who for perverse reasons want to excuse this moron's persistent and unprovoked threatening aggression. You can please yourself whether you want to ban me for having morals & principles, it's your forum, but you will look right pillock to all thinking right minded people if you do; you will, perversely get lots of support from fellow budding morons. There was me thinking you said something like this was a place for freely exchanging opinion. Anyway, as I already said, my communication about this matter has passed to those in authority now due to lack of respect on here, & DATM, for the dozens of Town fans that were at Stoke and had a bad taste all game, so I'll leave you to wallow in your pit while I deal with reality. I'm not looking for argument by the way, but I will call a spade a spade!
|
|
|
Post by dooky82 on Sept 15, 2021 12:35:37 GMT
Steve. Stop being a twat, or you'll be getting the accolade of the first person to be banned from the forum where nobody is banned. digs has made it completely clear that he's only reporting the guys own version of events and questioning whether plastering his face on social media is a good idea, when it has resulted in apparent threats made against his family. If you are happy to go and stand in a courtroom to have the fella convicted, then shouldn't you really be saving your evidence until then, or do you want a trial by social media as well?? Up to you buddy. I think everybody has taken your own personal account of what you saw and heard on board, incuding digs, but if you are now just spoiling for a petty argument you can fuck off back to DATM and have it on there with somebody more willing. How about some respect for innocent parties here? You know, all those fans at Stoke that had suffered the abuse! All those fans who showed restraint throughout the match by not imposing their collective objections to what was happening throughout, & thereby avoided a nasty physical event. At no time have I condoned what people are saying on social media that bring this into play for his wife or kids, in fact I condemn that. However, you can't defend the indefensible and it is offensive to spread lies about what happened to suck up to those who for perverse reasons want to excuse this moron's persistent and unprovoked threatening aggression. You can please yourself whether you want to ban me for having morals & principles, it's your forum, but you will look right pillock to all thinking right minded people if you do; you will, perversely get lots of support from fellow budding morons. There was me thinking you said something like this was a place for freely exchanging opinion. Anyway, as I already said, my communication about this matter has passed to those in authority now due to lack of respect on here, & DATM, for the dozens of Town fans that were at Stoke and had a bad taste all game, so I'll leave you to wallow in your pit while I deal with reality. I'm not looking for argument by the way, but I will call a spade a spade! You are definitely looking for an argument. When this board was created I joined and said how it was a refreshing alternative to DATM where I had stopped posting due to tit for tat boring endless threads. Iv probably disagreed with more on here than iv agreed with but iv had some healthy debate which is normally concluded by agreeing to disagree within a few posts. Steve if I remember rightly and based on this evidence you can babble on for days and it's so fucking boring. If you want to keep babbling, repeating yourself and talking shite it might be an idea to pop back across to DATM where I know they will welcome you with open arms. All the best.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 12:46:21 GMT
Steve. Stop being a twat, or you'll be getting the accolade of the first person to be banned from the forum where nobody is banned. digs has made it completely clear that he's only reporting the guys own version of events and questioning whether plastering his face on social media is a good idea, when it has resulted in apparent threats made against his family. If you are happy to go and stand in a courtroom to have the fella convicted, then shouldn't you really be saving your evidence until then, or do you want a trial by social media as well?? Up to you buddy. I think everybody has taken your own personal account of what you saw and heard on board, incuding digs, but if you are now just spoiling for a petty argument you can fuck off back to DATM and have it on there with somebody more willing. How about some respect for innocent parties here? You know, all those fans at Stoke that had suffered the abuse! All those fans who showed restraint throughout the match by not imposing their collective objections to what was happening throughout, & thereby avoided a nasty physical event. At no time have I condoned what people are saying on social media that bring this into play for his wife or kids, in fact I condemn that. However, you can't defend the indefensible and it is offensive to spread lies about what happened to suck up to those who for perverse reasons want to excuse this moron's persistent and unprovoked threatening aggression. You can please yourself whether you want to ban me for having morals & principles, it's your forum, but you will look right pillock to all thinking right minded people if you do; you will, perversely get lots of support from fellow budding morons. There was me thinking you said something like this was a place for freely exchanging opinion. Anyway, as I already said, my communication about this matter has passed to those in authority now due to lack of respect on here, & DATM, for the dozens of Town fans that were at Stoke and had a bad taste all game, so I'll leave you to wallow in your pit while I deal with reality. I'm not looking for argument by the way, but I will call a spade a spade! Not going to get into the crux of the debate/argument as my opinion has already been shared and I’m not overly interested as a result. But, I can’t see how you, or anyone, will be banned from this forum. The reason I’m a member and haven’t been on DATM for so long is because, on here, others learn how to scroll past something they don’t like. You’ll be fine.
|
|
|
Post by cissystrutt74 on Sept 15, 2021 12:55:54 GMT
Steve. Stop being a twat, or you'll be getting the accolade of the first person to be banned from the forum where nobody is banned. digs has made it completely clear that he's only reporting the guys own version of events and questioning whether plastering his face on social media is a good idea, when it has resulted in apparent threats made against his family. If you are happy to go and stand in a courtroom to have the fella convicted, then shouldn't you really be saving your evidence until then, or do you want a trial by social media as well?? Up to you buddy. I think everybody has taken your own personal account of what you saw and heard on board, incuding digs, but if you are now just spoiling for a petty argument you can fuck off back to DATM and have it on there with somebody more willing. How about some respect for innocent parties here? You know, all those fans at Stoke that had suffered the abuse! All those fans who showed restraint throughout the match by not imposing their collective objections to what was happening throughout, & thereby avoided a nasty physical event. At no time have I condoned what people are saying on social media that bring this into play for his wife or kids, in fact I condemn that. However, you can't defend the indefensible and it is offensive to spread lies about what happened to suck up to those who for perverse reasons want to excuse this moron's persistent and unprovoked threatening aggression. You can please yourself whether you want to ban me for having morals & principles, it's your forum, but you will look right pillock to all thinking right minded people if you do; you will, perversely get lots of support from fellow budding morons. There was me thinking you said something like this was a place for freely exchanging opinion. Anyway, as I already said, my communication about this matter has passed to those in authority now due to lack of respect on here, & DATM, for the dozens of Town fans that were at Stoke and had a bad taste all game, so I'll leave you to wallow in your pit while I deal with reality. I'm not looking for argument by the way, but I will call a spade a spade! Well it definitely looks like you've got that off your chest and we can put this unsavory incident behind us and move forward I'd like to do my bit and get this back on track by focusing on the fairer sex We need to be more inclusive, ditch the cave man attitudes and promote equality.......now check out these fit birds!
|
|
|
Post by steve4htafc on Sept 15, 2021 13:09:35 GMT
How about some respect for innocent parties here? You know, all those fans at Stoke that had suffered the abuse! All those fans who showed restraint throughout the match by not imposing their collective objections to what was happening throughout, & thereby avoided a nasty physical event. At no time have I condoned what people are saying on social media that bring this into play for his wife or kids, in fact I condemn that. However, you can't defend the indefensible and it is offensive to spread lies about what happened to suck up to those who for perverse reasons want to excuse this moron's persistent and unprovoked threatening aggression. You can please yourself whether you want to ban me for having morals & principles, it's your forum, but you will look right pillock to all thinking right minded people if you do; you will, perversely get lots of support from fellow budding morons. There was me thinking you said something like this was a place for freely exchanging opinion. Anyway, as I already said, my communication about this matter has passed to those in authority now due to lack of respect on here, & DATM, for the dozens of Town fans that were at Stoke and had a bad taste all game, so I'll leave you to wallow in your pit while I deal with reality. I'm not looking for argument by the way, but I will call a spade a spade! You are definitely looking for an argument. When this board was created I joined and said how it was a refreshing alternative to DATM where I had stopped posting due to tit for tat boring endless threads. Iv probably disagreed with more on here than iv agreed with but iv had some healthy debate which is normally concluded by agreeing to disagree within a few posts. Steve if I remember rightly and based on this evidence you can babble on for days and it's so fucking boring. If you want to keep babbling, repeating yourself and talking shite it might be an idea to pop back across to DATM where I know they will welcome you with open arms. All the best. If people didn't keep responding to my factual contribution, when I say I'm not looking for an argument, with speculations about what may or may not have happened or poorly structured & thought through attempted put downs, miraculously, I couldn't be in an argument even if I wanted to be! Try thinking about it.
|
|