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Post by captslapper on Mar 15, 2022 23:37:06 GMT
If the government wanted to freeze peoples accounts what bloody difference does it make whether you use a contactless card or not you utter loon? Do you carry your entire wealth around with you? How much cash people carry will have gone down because the amount you can spend on contactless has gone up. I dont know how you dare get out of bed in a morning! Hang on, you've been winding me up all along, you cheeky monkey! Nobody is that thick. We're talking about the choice of cash or digital currency, not both. Your card, contactless or not is not real cash, it's a digital transfer of funds, ya dimwit. Governments can freeze bank accounts, credit cards, debit cards (even your contactless one) and all forms of currency other than cash, or possibly assets, such as gold if we're going to be picky, which you normally are for the sake of it. Crypto is being clamped down on purely because governments have zero control on it and it can be exchanged worldwide for other currencies. The WEF governments and China all want to have their own Central Bank version of it to replace cash completely. The reason for this is you've then lost total control of your entire financial circumstances. You have no financial independence what so ever. Disobey Big Brother and he freezes your money, all of it, as has already happened in the Liberal Nazi Nation of Canada. You'll starve unless you comply. Hell, we're doing it to anyone who dared to be born in Russia and has a few quid. Anyone who can't see an issue here, is way too trusting of modern governments or as thick as mince. I'll go for the latter with 2 or 3 on here. The money in your bank account is not real money either Soreen. In your ever increasingly fuddled brain do you imagine the Nationwide or whoever have this cupboard somewhere with Marcus 'brains' Soreen written on it and inside is this pile of bank notes that is yours?? So unless you carry your entire wealth around with you or have it stuffed under your bedroom floorboards at whatever institution they care for you at, what fucking difference does it make if ,purely for convenience, you have a contactless debit card meaning you dont need to carry so much cash with you? LOL I know I take the piss, but seriously have you ever tried seeing a psychiatrist?
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 16, 2022 9:35:48 GMT
The money in your bank account is not real money either Soreen. No sh1t Sherlock. Has it not dawned on you, that you're agreeing with me? In your ever increasingly fuddled brain do you imagine the Nationwide or whoever have this cupboard somewhere with Marcus 'brains' Soreen written on it and inside is this pile of bank notes that is yours?? So unless you carry your entire wealth around with you or have it stuffed under your bedroom floorboards at whatever institution they care for you at, what fucking difference does it make if ,purely for convenience, you have a contactless debit card meaning you dont need to carry so much cash with you? LOL I know I take the piss, but seriously have you ever tried seeing a psychiatrist? Let me make this idiot proof you for you. I'm not suggesting all wealth is transferred to cash, Trigger, just that all the time there is a cash alternative which the government can't freeze at will, every time you don't do as Big Doris wants, as recently happened in Canada, you won't starve to death and be unable to exist, if you have a reserve of cash as an alternative to when the WEF freeze your bank account and cards. If cash is removed completely, they have total control over everyone and can use the threat of removing your money as a weapon. Ask a grown up to explain the danger of this in simple terms to you.
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Post by captslapper on Mar 16, 2022 9:56:10 GMT
And having £30 in your pocket,, like people have always done is going to stop them freezing your bank account having any effect is it? Stop them having that control? Jesus Christ, even by your standards this is bad shit stupid!! You really need to seek some kind of counselling.. Joking aside, there's something going badly wrong in your head.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 16, 2022 15:04:18 GMT
And having £30 in your pocket,, like people have always done is going to stop them freezing your bank account having any effect is it? Stop them having that control? Jesus Christ, even by your standards this is bad shit stupid!! You really need to seek some kind of counselling.. Joking aside, there's something going badly wrong in your head. £30? Try living off £0 for a couple of weeks. I always have £100 cash and £1500 crypto just in case Doris starts doing a Trudeau. My ticket tonight might be cash only at Millwall for a start. This big state taking money away from people is very real CaptGullible. It’s about time you took your head out of the sand and started thinking for yourself.
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Post by captslapper on Mar 16, 2022 15:57:53 GMT
So youre bemoaning people using contactless and not needing to carry real money like its some sort of apocalyptical event , but take comfort in your £1500 in crypto currency?
Are there any advances that happen that you dont see as SPECTRE directing the new world order? What were you like when they stopped putting that little blue packet of salt in with your crisps?
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 17, 2022 12:34:46 GMT
So youre bemoaning people using contactless and not needing to carry real money like its some sort of apocalyptical event , but take comfort in your £1500 in crypto currency? Are there any advances that happen that you dont see as SPECTRE directing the new world order? What were you like when they stopped putting that little blue packet of salt in with your crisps? Another subject you know feck all about, other than what the MSM have fed you. Is there no end to your pig ignorance? I.E. It's transactions are held and authenticated on many millions of private servers and computers worldwide. Not just one set of servers which the government can control at will. This is the "crypto mining" part of it, the unencryption of the blockchain and authenticating of transactions earns new currency. Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) . Even if they ban it, people will and and do still exchange it as currency. This lack of government totalitarian control is the main reason why they don't like it. The proportion who use it for ransomware payment etc is minute and way lower than any other kind of currency fraud.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 17, 2022 12:53:08 GMT
So youre bemoaning people using contactless and not needing to carry real money like its some sort of apocalyptical event , but take comfort in your £1500 in crypto currency? Are there any advances that happen that you dont see as SPECTRE directing the new world order?What were you like when they stopped putting that little blue packet of salt in with your crisps? In all seriousness, I'd be interested in your answer to this.. Have you noticed a creep towards divide and conquer in society of late? The polarising of views, from Brexit, to Climate Fascism, to Vaccines, to Russia? Families and friends turning against each other, arguing at the dinner table, in pubs, on Internet forums. What or who do you think is pushing this via the media and why?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 14:19:53 GMT
Have you noticed a creep towards divide and conquer in society of late? The polarising of views, from Brexit, to Climate Fascism, to Vaccines, to Russia? Families and friends turning against each other, arguing at the dinner table, in pubs, on Internet forums. Yes, so why do you further this behaviour? Seems pretty wierd to spout constant hard-one-way-and-wont-listen-to-any-contrary-view opinion. All it does is polarises views even more than they might already be. I can safely say that away from football forums, I have not had a single such polarised argument on any of those topics in real life with family and friends, or in any of the on-line communities I dip into, despite knowing - plenty on both sides of Brexit, plenty ardently for and against vaccines, a very small handful who like yourself suggest Russia are acting with honourable intentions (just one English friends has raised this, a couple of Hungarian and Indian colleagues have hinted this is their thought), and a small number who think there's a climate emergency that needs addressing, hey, I even have Leeds fans as friends - so, its not as though I live in a comfortable echo chamber just hearing my own opinions spouted back at me.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 17, 2022 14:28:27 GMT
Have you noticed a creep towards divide and conquer in society of late? The polarising of views, from Brexit, to Climate Fascism, to Vaccines, to Russia? Families and friends turning against each other, arguing at the dinner table, in pubs, on Internet forums. Yes, so why do you further this behaviour?Seems pretty wierd to spout constant hard-one-way-and-wont-listen-to-any-contrary-view opinion. All it does is polarises views even more than they might already be. I can safely say that away from football forums, I have not had a single such polarised argument on any of those topics in real life with family and friends, or in any of the on-line communities I dip into, despite knowing - plenty on both sides of Brexit, plenty ardently for and against vaccines, a very small handful who like yourself suggest Russia are acting with honourable intentions (just one English friends has raised this, a couple of Hungarian and Indian colleagues have hinted this is their thought), and a small number who think there's a climate emergency that needs addressing, hey, I even have Leeds fans as friends - so, its not as though I live in a comfortable echo chamber just hearing my own opinions spouted back at me. What you're basically saying there is "my side is correct and you're wrong, so join the herd's side splitter!" You're blaming me for polar opposite views by refusing to accept, listen to even entertain any views not meeting the mainstream one you've fallen hook, line and sinker for. Righto. I'd say we're as bas as each other. This isn't the real point though. Quite clearly this polar opposite viewpoint agenda is being driven and pushed by the media. The real question is by who? Who benefits by this and why? I have my views, so what are yours, as this is clearly not anything anyone can deny.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 14:56:37 GMT
Yes, so why do you further this behaviour?Seems pretty wierd to spout constant hard-one-way-and-wont-listen-to-any-contrary-view opinion. All it does is polarises views even more than they might already be. I can safely say that away from football forums, I have not had a single such polarised argument on any of those topics in real life with family and friends, or in any of the on-line communities I dip into, despite knowing - plenty on both sides of Brexit, plenty ardently for and against vaccines, a very small handful who like yourself suggest Russia are acting with honourable intentions (just one English friends has raised this, a couple of Hungarian and Indian colleagues have hinted this is their thought), and a small number who think there's a climate emergency that needs addressing, hey, I even have Leeds fans as friends - so, its not as though I live in a comfortable echo chamber just hearing my own opinions spouted back at me. What you're basically saying there is "my side is correct and you're wrong, so join the herd's side splitter!" You're blaming me for polar opposite views by refusing to accept, listen to even entertain any views not meeting the mainstream one you've fallen hook, line and sinker for. Righto. I'd say we're as bas as each other. This isn't the real point though. Quite clearly this polar opposite viewpoint agenda is being driven and pushed by the media. The real question is by who? Who benefits by this and why? I have my views, so what are yours, as this is clearly not anything anyone can deny. You make incorrect assumptions about other peoples opinions, fail to properly read and comprehend, and then shoot off some offensive irrelevant drivel in response. Again. You obviously do have some interesting opinions in and amongst - which I'd be more than willing to listen to if you weren't such an antagonistic arse about them, and didn't present ludicrous, discredited guff as 'proof'! I do listen to and consider opinions of some people who have similar standpoints to some of yours, as I've said...but your childish insistence on using terms such as Cheeina or Clot-Shot just flag you as an individual not worth listening to or engaging with on these topics. My view, on this specific topic, is as I stated...angry rattling of polar opposite viewpoints is NOT driven and pushed by 'the media' - it is driven and pushed by individuals, like you > I continue to have reasonable conversations elsewhere on socio-political issues. Hey, I've even changed my mind on a few subjects over the last few years. But, as I wrote, your behaviour is pretty weird...I've read everything you've contributed, and none of it is compelling at all - its just become a repetitive drivel >>
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Post by captslapper on Mar 17, 2022 15:59:39 GMT
So youre bemoaning people using contactless and not needing to carry real money like its some sort of apocalyptical event , but take comfort in your £1500 in crypto currency? Are there any advances that happen that you dont see as SPECTRE directing the new world order?What were you like when they stopped putting that little blue packet of salt in with your crisps? In all seriousness, I'd be interested in your answer to this.. Have you noticed a creep towards divide and conquer in society of late? The polarising of views, from Brexit, to Climate Fascism, to Vaccines, to Russia? Families and friends turning against each other, arguing at the dinner table, in pubs, on Internet forums. What or who do you think is pushing this via the media and why? Theyre subjects that divide opinion. Do you think there is anything new in that? Joining the common market will have been the same 50 years ago! The miners strike, the Iraq war, immigration, Poll tax, privatisations, CND, etc etc etc...there are always topics that divide opinion. Its coincidence that 2 biggies like Brexit and covid followed each other so quickly. Dont think anyone is divided over Russia.. 'almost' everyone has got their head screwed on right about that one!
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 17, 2022 16:11:30 GMT
Theyre subjects that divide opinion. Do you think there is anything new in that? Err. yes. Never has society been so divided on opinion, so polarised. It started with Brexit. When was the country so divided before this? Joining the common market will have been the same 50 years ago! I'm 49. I don't remember this. I don't remember anything that eventful in 1992 either, when we joined the EU. Miners strikes, poll tax riots etc were a minority, they certainly didn't split the country in two as Brexit or Coerced vaccination did. The miners strike, the Iraq war, immigration, Poll tax, privatisations, CND, etc etc etc...there are always topics that divide opinion. Oh sure, but nowhere near the degree of divide and conquer we have now. They're working on dumbing down society till they get all the programmed dimwits in the same field. The minority still capable of self thought will be such a weak force by then, the WEF can finally bring in it;s Great reset and dominate and control via media and large state. Its coincidence that 2 biggies like Brexit and covid followed each other so quickly. Yea, course it is mate. Just shear co-incidence. Project Fear for 6 years non stop and we end Covid propaganda. Brexit ends and can;t be used as a scare tasctic anymore, so almost immediately Covid turns up to follow. Then the week after Doris admits it was all bullsh1t and ends all restrictions at a time where cases and supposed death figures are way, way higher than when he last put in lockdown, Purin invades Russia and brings us potential media World War 3, unaffordable energy and oil shortages. Wake up. Dont think anyone is divided over Russia.. 'almost' everyone has got their head screwed on right about that one! "Almost everyone is following establishment programming on this".... Yep. Wars are going on all over the place and always have been, but somehow none of them matter, but the one the media is rolling out as the next Project fear. I don't remember the same hysteria and people asking for cash to buy a van, fill it with cat food and drive it to Kosovo, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq...In fact, nobody gave a sh1te about the Neo Nazi Ukrainian Army battalions who have been slaughtering pro Russian civilians in the civil war that's been raging for 8 years in Ukraine. Why? because dimwits who can't think for themselves weren't told to be outraged by the media, that's why.
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Post by captslapper on Mar 17, 2022 16:15:25 GMT
So youre bemoaning people using contactless and not needing to carry real money like its some sort of apocalyptical event , but take comfort in your £1500 in crypto currency? Are there any advances that happen that you dont see as SPECTRE directing the new world order? What were you like when they stopped putting that little blue packet of salt in with your crisps? Another subject you know feck all about, other than what the MSM have fed you. Is there no end to your pig ignorance? I.E. It's transactions are held and authenticated on many millions of private servers and computers worldwide. Not just one set of servers which the government can control at will. This is the "crypto mining" part of it, the unencryption of the blockchain and authenticating of transactions earns new currency. Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) . Even if they ban it, people will and and do still exchange it as currency. This lack of government totalitarian control is the main reason why they don't like it. The proportion who use it for ransomware payment etc is minute and way lower than any other kind of currency fraud. So when our government freezes everyones accounts ( because that will happen!) you'll be nipping into Morrisons and paying with your cryptocurrency will you? LOL Wish I could be there to see how that pans out! How are you going to turn your cryptocurrency into useable cash if your bank account is frozen? I think where you go wrong ( there are so many ways, but this is maybe a core one ) is that something happens, in this case Trudeau freezing the accounts of those protesters in Canada.. and you make this enormous leap into the realms of fantasy by assuming that this will now happen to everyone, everywhere. 'He did it, so you'd have to be an idiot to think it wont happen here!!" " Empty your bank accounts before they freeze your assets too " etc etc Like the 'everyone will switch the renting' farce. Did you know someone who sold their house to go into rented or something? And from that EVERYONE will sell their house and rent in the next few years. Governments do all sorts of weird things around the world. Your sexy hunk Putin is currently locking up anyone who protests against him attacking a neighbouring country, for example. But you can calm down, sleep easy, because it doesnt mean it'll happen to you.
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Post by captslapper on Mar 17, 2022 16:29:38 GMT
Theyre subjects that divide opinion. Do you think there is anything new in that? Err. yes. Never has society been so divided on opinion, so polarised. It started with Brexit. When was the country so divided before this? Joining the common market will have been the same 50 years ago! I'm 49. I don't remember this. I don't remember anything that eventful in 1992 either, when we joined the EU. Miners strikes, poll tax riots etc were a minority, they certainly didn't split the country in two as Brexit or Coerced vaccination did. The miners strike, the Iraq war, immigration, Poll tax, privatisations, CND, etc etc etc...there are always topics that divide opinion. Oh sure, but nowhere near the degree of divide and conquer we have now. They're working on dumbing down society till they get all the programmed dimwits in the same field. The minority still capable of self thought will be such a weak force by then, the WEF can finally bring in it;s Great reset and dominate and control via media and large state. Its coincidence that 2 biggies like Brexit and covid followed each other so quickly. Yea, course it is mate. Just shear co-incidence. Project Fear for 6 years non stop and we end Covid propaganda, to follow along with World War 3, unaffordable energy and oil shortages. Wake up. Dont think anyone is divided over Russia.. 'almost' everyone has got their head screwed on right about that one! "Almost everyone is following establishment programming on this".... Yep. Wars are going on all over the place and always have been, but somehow none of them matter, but the one the media is rolling out as the next Project fear. I don't remember the same hysteria and people asking for cash to buy a van, fill it with cat food and drive it to Kosovo, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq...In fact, nobody gave a sh1te about the Neo Nazi Ukrainian Army battalions who have been slaughtering pro Russian civilians in the civil war that's been raging for 8 years in Ukraine. Why? because dimwits who can't think for themselves weren't told to be outraged by the media, that's why. We joined the common market.. that was the divisive bit. Subsequent changes to the EEC and then EU weren't much more than name changes for most people. People arent divided over Russia because they arent as stupid as you and falling for every bit of propaganda Putin puts out. People weren't divided over vaccines either. Almost everyone could see the obvious benefits. Does it not occur to you that a lot of this division you imagine, is simply because you regurgitate the utter shit you see on your grooming sites and it tends to go against what normal right minded people think? But of course, they can't think for themselves, right? Not like you who repeats parrot fashion any old horseshit fantasy conspiracy theory some twat implants in your empty head. Go seek help. Seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 17:18:27 GMT
Theyre subjects that divide opinion. Do you think there is anything new in that? Err. yes. Never has society been so divided on opinion, so polarised. It started with Brexit. When was the country so divided before this? Joining the common market will have been the same 50 years ago! I'm 49. I don't remember this. I don't remember anything that eventful in 1992 either, when we joined the EU. Miners strikes, poll tax riots etc were a minority, they certainly didn't split the country in two as Brexit or Coerced vaccination did. The miners strike, the Iraq war, immigration, Poll tax, privatisations, CND, etc etc etc...there are always topics that divide opinion. Oh sure, but nowhere near the degree of divide and conquer we have now. They're working on dumbing down society till they get all the programmed dimwits in the same field. The minority still capable of self thought will be such a weak force by then, the WEF can finally bring in it;s Great reset and dominate and control via media and large state. Its coincidence that 2 biggies like Brexit and covid followed each other so quickly. Yea, course it is mate. Just shear co-incidence. Project Fear for 6 years non stop and we end Covid propaganda. Brexit ends and can;t be used as a scare tasctic anymore, so almost immediately Covid turns up to follow. Then the week after Doris admits it was all bullsh1t and ends all restrictions at a time where cases and supposed death figures are way, way higher than when he last put in lockdown, Purin invades Russia and brings us potential media World War 3, unaffordable energy and oil shortages. Wake up. Dont think anyone is divided over Russia.. 'almost' everyone has got their head screwed on right about that one! "Almost everyone is following establishment programming on this".... Yep. Wars are going on all over the place and always have been, but somehow none of them matter, but the one the media is rolling out as the next Project fear. I don't remember the same hysteria and people asking for cash to buy a van, fill it with cat food and drive it to Kosovo, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq...In fact, nobody gave a sh1te about the Neo Nazi Ukrainian Army battalions who have been slaughtering pro Russian civilians in the civil war that's been raging for 8 years in Ukraine. Why? because dimwits who can't think for themselves weren't told to be outraged by the media, that's why. You don't remember, because what has changed since then is there's 7billion people in a potential global village able to talk to/at each other, which simply didn't exist 30 years ago. In early 1990's if you wanted to chew the fat with people you don't already know, it would be with people "like you" that you'd been brought up alongside and had shared experienced and outlooks...friends of friends. I remember even in 1995 - whilst you had the closed communities of Compuserve and BBS's that a TINY fragment of the population had access to , early 'public browsing' outside of those boundaries, you'd often be in a situation where you'd send off an email, get a response from a list-server back maybe 8hrs or a day later, which contained a 'page' of text, along with some links to email to, in order to serve up what you wanted to see next. The internet was mostly a resource to consume, not something to contribute to. If we want to talk about echo chambers, then go back to the year 1990 and the entirety of history before that. What we have now is the complete opposite of that, and thats why you're seeing argument and divisiveness. There's a wider audience and more opinions out there. Community in 1991 was 6 mates who'd known each for 20 years around a table in a pub - and someone on the next table might chirp in with something every now and then. Community in 2021 is someone nobody knows shouting really loudly in a pub thats got 7billion customers who are listening. The world is smaller and busier than its ever been..a global village. That things aren't even more chaotic and angry is the surprise to me!
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