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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 22, 2022 11:45:04 GMT
Now then Clappy…. You said this about crypto currencies: “Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) .” You are wrong. A search and seizure application under section 47 of the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 allows for law enforcement officers to search for and seize crypto. If during the search either the wallet, or the 2 long ID strings, or the recovery seeds are found, they can access the crypto account and transfer the crypto to a (for example) Police wallet. They can then apply for a forfeiture order at Magistrates’ Court to permanently deprive you of these seized crypto assets. So a bit of controlling and freezing going on there!! Maybe stick to spouting off about stuff you know something about….. and we can all enjoy the ensuing silence. Another ignorant moron who's fallen for the government anti Crypto propaganda. Most wallets are encrypted and even a warrant won't reveal the private key. How would the government freeze and seize crypto assets of large groups of citizens, as they did to bank accounts in Canada? Dreag them all in, beat them up and demand the private keys? Stick to spouting off about stuff you actually understand. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 22, 2022 11:59:21 GMT
Why WEF governments and beyond don't like Crypto. It removes their totalitarian control over people, as is being abused now, as it has in WEF ran Canada recently.
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Post by sensibleidiot on Mar 22, 2022 12:25:16 GMT
Now then Clappy…. You said this about crypto currencies: “Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) .” You are wrong. A search and seizure application under section 47 of the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 allows for law enforcement officers to search for and seize crypto. If during the search either the wallet, or the 2 long ID strings, or the recovery seeds are found, they can access the crypto account and transfer the crypto to a (for example) Police wallet. They can then apply for a forfeiture order at Magistrates’ Court to permanently deprive you of these seized crypto assets. So a bit of controlling and freezing going on there!! Maybe stick to spouting off about stuff you know something about….. and we can all enjoy the ensuing silence. Another ignorant moron who's fallen for the government anti Crypto propaganda. Most wallets are encrypted and even a warrant won't reveal the private key. How would the government freeze and seize crypto assets of large groups of citizens, as they did to bank accounts in Canada? Dreag them all in, beat them up and demand the private keys? Stick to spouting off about stuff you actually understand. Have you ever been out with a LEA on a search warrant? I have…. Have you ever seen a LEA digital forensic officer find the recovery seeds and access someone’s crypto? I have… Have you ever seen an application from an NCA accredited financial investigator for detention and then forfeiture of aforementioned seized crypto? I have…. So, once again, you fucking root vegetable…. You were talking out of your arse when you said: “No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc)” Chat shit all you want but this is the real world. It can and does happen…. No opinion, no guessing, no Russell Brand told me, no left wingers acting like right wingers, no man in the pub…… and I haven’t had a call from WEF or DFS…. Or any other acronym brainwashing me….. ……this is first hand, witnessed by myself, fact. So post whatever you want in reply….. but know that you are wrong and your sources are wrong. Could it be that ‘they’ want you to believe crypto is safe / secure / untraceable etc. so you become complacent and they can see what you are doing with your assets? Bit like when they cracked the encrypted encro phones and all the big boys carried on very blatantly talking about supplying kilos of cocaine etc all while plod was monitoring…. Oooh…… that’d be a mind fuck for you wouldn’t it!? |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 22, 2022 12:43:48 GMT
 You've just quoted an article to pretend you know what you're talking about. Google has never heard of an "LEA digital forensic officer". This must be some secret misunderstanding of terms, only you know of. Tell me how they got the private keys and who from. You seriously think they turn up at the door with a warrant to seize decentralised crypto? Oh, you're so funny. |
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Post by sensibleidiot on Mar 22, 2022 13:51:05 GMT
You've just quoted an article to pretend you know what you're talking about. Google has never heard of an "LEA digital forensic officer". This must be some secret misunderstanding of terms, only you know of. Tell me how they got the private keys and who from. You seriously think they turn up at the door with a warrant to seize decentralised crypto? Oh, you're so funny. Google hasn’t heard of it cos Google is a pawn of WEF…. Dint you know? And I work for a LEA so no pretending here. And in the case I witnessed, it was the recovery seed that was found, a list of 12 random words that were used to access the crypto account… to then transfer the balance etc etc. Just cos YOU don’t know , doesn’t mean that nobody knows…… you ignorant fool. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 22, 2022 14:16:55 GMT
And I work for a LEA so no pretending here. And what are a Local Education Authority (only suggestion on Google) doing knocking on doors to seize bags of online crypto? And in the case I witnessed, it was the recovery seed that was found, a list of 12 random words that were used to access the crypto account… to then transfer the balance etc etc. Boll0cks. Absolute Bollocks. Tell me where you "found" the recovery seed. Written on a piece of paper was it? You clearly don't understand that these only apply to hardware wallets. Just cos YOU don’t know , doesn’t mean that nobody knows…… you ignorant fool. Oh the irony, you're just searching and quoting Google to try to make it look like you understand crypto. It's kind of funny though, Keep it up! |
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Post by sensibleidiot on Mar 22, 2022 15:15:23 GMT
And I work for a LEA so no pretending here. And what are a Local Education Authority (only suggestion on Google) doing knocking on doors to seize bags of online crypto? And in the case I witnessed, it was the recovery seed that was found, a list of 12 random words that were used to access the crypto account… to then transfer the balance etc etc. Boll0cks. Absolute Bollocks. Tell me where you "found" the recovery seed. Written on a piece of paper was it? You clearly don't understand that these only apply to hardware wallets. Just cos YOU don’t know , doesn’t mean that nobody knows…… you ignorant fool. Oh the irony, you're just searching and quoting Google to try to make it look like you understand crypto. It's kind of funny though, Keep it up! LEA is a Law Enforcement Agency. You know, like the police and the National Crime Agency. Big house, bottom of master bedroom wardrobe was a small freestanding safe. Key was on bunch with house and car keys…. Safe opened. Inside, numerous Rolex etc watches, and a list with 12 random words. Bit of previous training for officers led one to think ‘I wonder….’. Call goes in and a digital forensics specialist arrives…. Fires up laptop and starts with bitcoin site… lo and behold…. Access to the account = transfer of balance to police wallet. And to clarify, I don’t understand crypto past a very basic level….. but what I do know is that it CAN be seized and forfeited by LEA cos …. ….. well…… CAUSE IVE SEEN IT DONE. Now fuck off back to Google searching to try fill in your knowledge gaps. Or send a freedom of information request in to the NCA asking how many crypto accounts have been seized etc. Up to you…. But just cos you don’t know doesn’t mean it don’t happen. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 22, 2022 15:39:13 GMT
[ And to clarify, I don’t understand crypto past a very basic level….. but what I do know is that it CAN be seized and forfeited by LEA cos …. If you're dim enough to leave it written on a bit of paper, in a safe with the key on a key ring in the house, AND you only use a hardware wallet... We're stretching the possibilities here a bit fella. Now for the vast majority of us who use a software wallet, explain how your LEADFOWKODTSCCHWO (Law enforcement agency digital forensic officer who knocks on doors to seize crypto currency hardware wallets only) will seize mine? How will the government freeze my ability to use my software crypto wallet, to pay for things if they go all out WEF on us as Trudeau did on his people? I'm curious, as I don't have a seed written on a bit of paper in an envelope marked "Here coppers, have my crypto access". |
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Post by sensibleidiot on Mar 22, 2022 15:48:55 GMT
[ And to clarify, I don’t understand crypto past a very basic level….. but what I do know is that it CAN be seized and forfeited by LEA cos …. If you're dim enough to leave it written on a bit of paper, in a safe with the key on a key ring in the house, AND you only use a hardware wallet... We're stretching the possibilities here a bit fella. Now for the vast majority of us who use a software wallet, explain how your LEADFOWKODTSCCHWO (Law enforcement agency digital forensic officer who knocks on doors to seize crypto currency hardware wallets only) will seize mine? How will the government freeze my ability to use my software crypto wallet, to pay for things if they go all out WEF on us as Trudeau did on his people? I'm curious, as I don't have a seed written on a bit of paper in an envelope marked "Here coppers, have my crypto access". You said “Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) .” I said you were wrong. Which you are…. It can be seized / frozen etc. …… now you can shift the goalposts wherever you want with your WEF deflection….. ….. but you made a statement…. You were wrong …. and that’s what I took you to task on. Now off you pop to Google ‘oh! I did not know that - thank you. …. Every days a school day ‘ You are welcome. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 22, 2022 17:21:16 GMT
You said “Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) .” I said you were wrong. Which you are…. It can be seized / frozen etc. …… now you can shift the goalposts wherever you want with your WEF deflection….. ….. but you made a statement…. You were wrong …. and that’s what I took you to task on. Now off you pop to Google ‘oh! I did not know that - thank you. …. Every days a school day ‘ You are welcome. If you're going to be a dick, let me just highlight the part you're skimming over in your desperation to make it look like you actually understand the subject. As soon as Trudeau starts freezing software wallets if the public wont obey him, come back and start willy waving. Until then, go and do some research on the difference between a hardware wallet and a software one. He literally froze the bank accounts of anyone who dared donate to a peaceful protest. They didn't come knocking on doors with LEADFOWKTDDFCC's did they Trigger? Try doing the same with my software Crypto wallet and see how far you get. |
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Post by londontown on Mar 23, 2022 10:46:26 GMT
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 23, 2022 11:38:04 GMT
As perfectly demonstrated on here by the programmed denial sheep. |
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Post by sensibleidiot on Mar 23, 2022 11:47:30 GMT
You said “Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) .” I said you were wrong. Which you are…. It can be seized / frozen etc. …… now you can shift the goalposts wherever you want with your WEF deflection….. ….. but you made a statement…. You were wrong …. and that’s what I took you to task on. Now off you pop to Google ‘oh! I did not know that - thank you. …. Every days a school day ‘ You are welcome. If you're going to be a dick, let me just highlight the part you're skimming over in your desperation to make it look like you actually understand the subject. As soon as Trudeau starts freezing software wallets if the public wont obey him, come back and start willy waving. Until then, go and do some research on the difference between a hardware wallet and a software one. He literally froze the bank accounts of anyone who dared donate to a peaceful protest. They didn't come knocking on doors with LEADFOWKTDDFCC's did they Trigger? Try doing the same with my software Crypto wallet and see how far you get. Once again….. you said: Or, to put it into terms a root vegetable can understand. No government or authorities can control or freeze it as they can and now do, with digital currency (bank accounts, debit cards etc) I said you were wrong cos you are. Now, it may not cover all crypto…. It may be more difficult…. Etc etc. BUT it can be frozen…. Seized and forfeited. In the same way they can seize cash…. But not if they don’t find which field you buried it in…. They can freeze your bank accounts…. But not if you do the shady off shore, shell company front thing….. So… I’m Really chuffed for you that you have yours in a software wallet… hope it’s an online one and not a mobile app just on your phone…. Lose your phone and oh dear. But regardless of goalpost changing…. And I don’t care if Trudeau can or cannot do it to all Canadians at the push of one button or not….. The fact is, you said crypto cannot be frozen…. You are wrong cos it can. I’m now going to aim my next penalty kick at the corner flag cos I reckon that’s where you’ll move the goalposts to next. In fact, don’t bother replying. We will just go round in circles and I’ve got a reset (sorry ResEt) to prepare for….. or not. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 23, 2022 12:25:43 GMT
Are you a bit thick, plain ignorant or just taking the piss now?
Explain how the government or establishment could just freeze thousands of software crypto wallets, as they did recently to thousands of bank accounts in Canada all at once?
Your made up story about you helping MI5 LEAFDOCDKND team kick a door down to find a safe in a wardrobe, the keys for the safe and just happened to find the 12,24 or 36 backup Seed words written on a piece of paper for a HARDWARE (not software) CRYPTO WALLET, is nothing like the mass scale account freezing the WEF did in Canada, for people who dared refuse to a peaceful protest.
I've asked you this 3 times now and you keep dodging it, even though this is the entire crux and flaw in your weak and wrong argument.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 23, 2022 12:35:13 GMT
Wait, what, did the leader of the free world just tell us there's going to be a New World Order and we in the West, need to accept it?
Did his WEF handlers know he was going to let this info from a "Top Military person, in a secret meeting the other day"... out in public?
Oops! Good old Captain Senile strikes again.
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