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Post by clappyhapper on Jun 4, 2022 15:58:27 GMT
I'd like to see some figures from the Government, how many of these migrants go on to get jobs, how many abscond, what's the real cost of all this both short and long term, I think it would make interesting reading and as tax payers we have the right to know. As Merkel found out, very few of them want to work. Germany have withdrawn all benefits from 280,000 Gimmedats over the last year who were refusing to work. Guess where they head next, having destroyed all forms of ID, so we can't tell they've had asylum refused in the EU already? Think about it. They come from third world sh1tholes, where working your 4rse off, gives a lower standard of living that the Islamic Caliphate of Once Great Britain gives you for free, for sitting on your 4rse doing sweet FA. Why would they work? Getting picked up in French waters by RNLI, Border Farce or the Navy in the daily handover From the French government, is a meal ticket to a free lifestyle, courtesy of the Infidel tax payer for the illegal immigrant, then his entire family who will soon follow. They've moved a couple of hundred Gimmedats into a hotel near our town. They were there 2 days before local school girls started reporting being sexually assaulted on buses. |
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Post by captslapper on Jun 4, 2022 19:21:46 GMT
These are two very different things.. EU immigration and non-EU immigration. Leaving the EU had everything to do with the former, due to the EUs insistence on its ridiculous and damaging open border policy... but nothing at all to do with the latter. That is something we could have tightened up on whilst in the EU but never did, and still havent. I can't see why anyone would have voted to leave the EU on the idea that it would reduce immigration from Asia and Africa ... certainly wasn't anything anyone promised. Back in the day, most peoples' concerns were about immigration from the third-world (Pakistan, etc.)....few people were fazed by immigrants from Germany, Holland (Somali asylum seekers apart), France, etc. But then we had the E European accessions, and millions of poor immigrants poured into the country. And it was the shear numbers of those coming (allied no doubt to their relative poverty) which pissed most Brits off. And this issue....mass immigration...was the primary driver for Cameron to concede the referendum. As noted above, we had two Prime Ministers supposedly committing to reducing the immigration level to 100,000.....plus great emphasis during the campaign on regaining control of our borders. I can't speak for most Brexit voters.....but I'm certain that millions, myself included, were expecting to see a major reduction in ALL immigration. I can't believe anyone was voting to replace mass immigration from the EU (mainly of Europeans) with mass immigration from outside the EU (primarily from the third world). No they weren't. I dont think any leaver should have expected or indeed wanted an end to immigration from the EU. Its something the Uk needs. What people expected, and what they have, is the ability to control that immigration. Every member of the EU should have that right.. but the EU insists on their ludicrous freedom of movement crap, chasing as they are this federal one state of Europe dream they've undemocratically pursued for years. Immigration from outside the EU is a separate thing and yes, I think most people have wanted and expected the government to bring in measures to drastically reduce that.. and have been disappointed by the failure to do it. Our society is impotant from appeals after appeals by liberal lawyers working our weak liberal justice system.. we are our own worst enemy. its a big problem in Europe in general, particularly Western Europe. France as much as anyone. Look at the Champions league final in Paris and the violence afterwards.. gangs of literally thousands of armed immigrant youths attacking and mugging both Liverpool and Real fans with total impunity because the French police were beyond useless. Paris has areas that the police have virtually written off as far as upholding law and order goes or any semblance of western morals and standards. they've got the olympics in 2 years!! Another free for all for these gangs that the French can't even begin to control. We dont have it as bad as they do yet,, not quite,,, but we will if things arent done very soon. The bleeding heart liberals need finally putting back in their box. The influence they've wielded ( and they have had enormous influence over the past few decades ) has and will continue to wreck Europe. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 10:08:42 GMT
Restrictions in the previous year to March 2021 due to covid would explain a large rise in the year to march 2022. Doubt anyone was that keen to come from abroad to be a student in the Uk in the summer of 2020. Everything was shut, and courses were going to be online . In the summer of 2021 that had largely changed, so for comparison you'd have to compare the figure to pre-covid ones. Valid point. I haven't seen a specific students' number...but the latest combined number (incl. students) of approx. 1 million visas issued is up by about a third (250,000) on the pre-pandemic level. A brief reference to the above in a recent ST (in an article on the 60,000pa Nigerians now heading our way)....."A quarter more work visas.....and 50% more student visas....were granted by the UK last year, after the new points-based immigration system came into force in January 2021, compared with 2019, the last year before the pandemic."....."A rise in Nigerian enrolments helped the UK attract 600,000 international students for the first time in the 2020-21 academic year." Further education here seems now more aligned to making money than in ensuring Brits get the best educations going (for the ultimate benefit of the country). |
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Post by captslapper on Jun 24, 2022 13:27:11 GMT
Valid point. I haven't seen a specific students' number...but the latest combined number (incl. students) of approx. 1 million visas issued is up by about a third (250,000) on the pre-pandemic level. A brief reference to the above in a recent ST (in an article on the 60,000pa Nigerians now heading our way)....."A quarter more work visas.....and 50% more student visas....were granted by the UK last year, after the new points-based immigration system came into force in January 2021, compared with 2019, the last year before the pandemic."....."A rise in Nigerian enrolments helped the UK attract 600,000 international students for the first time in the 2020-21 academic year." Further education here seems now more aligned to making money than in ensuring Brits get the best educations going (for the ultimate benefit of the country).Absolutely. At £9250 a pop per annum, universities now try and cram in as many students as they can. Its very much about quantity over quality. My daughters uni in Bournemouth is a good example. 30 students per year before she joined. 60 per year whilst she was there, and now a year or two after she's left its over 100 per year. But the facilities havent expanded to meet that extra demand. Each student just gets less time on equipment, less time with tutors. The only bit that has expanded are the halls or residence with various new developments springing up.. so the Uni can fit in as many students as possible at about £5500 per year. before she went the Uni was the standout uni to go to in her field. Just being accepted there pretty much guaranteed you a good start in her industry. the alumni was basically anyone who is anyone. Now, whilst their income has gone up hugely, that reputation for excellence has practically all gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:01:20 GMT
Universities....once centres of excellence, now centres of woke indoctrination and money screwing. One would like to hope that foreign applicants are given priority on the Mickey Mouse courses, and Brits on the valuable (eg. STEM) ones. Unlikely. In fairness, some of those foreign students will settle here....and some Brits emigrate. But as a general rule, for the nation's welfare, our applicants to those courses of value should be given priority over foreigners. Our Unis should not be prioritising, say, applicants/intellectual property thieves from China.....it clearly isn't building bridges between our two nations.
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Post by captslapper on Jun 24, 2022 22:49:52 GMT
I was talking to a guy tonight who travels the world working for Pepsi.
He's pretty high up in what is an enormous company.
We got onto the subject of universities and he was basically saying that whereas a few years ago for a lot of positions you wouldn't even get an interview without a pretty good degree.. now they dont even consider it that much.
The reason being that the value of a degree has been diluted so much by the country's universities.
Too many students doing too many obscure subjects where its too easy to get a good degree... quantity over quality..the emphasis totally on ££££ in the bank.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 9:54:31 GMT
It's reported that, in the year to March, 994,951 visas were issued to foreign workers, students, relatives, etc. The ONE MILLION-PLUS arrivals is the highest annual total since modern records began in 2005....and may be the highest since WW2. The implementation of a points-based immigration system has opened up half of all UK jobs to foreigners.....and those near-half million foreign students (paying higher fees) will surely be depriving many Brits of a Uni place. Re. the close of the above.....an interesting article in today's Mail o/l re foreign applicants being given priority on Uni places over UK applicants. Apparently, in 2019, government set a Uni target of 600,000 foreign enrolments pa by 2030 (solely to raise money from fees)....that's already been overtaken (605,000 at the last count). Russell Group Unis claim fees for UK students have fallen behind inflation, hence a need for the higher fees paid by foreigners (up to £30,000 pa). And in practice, some examples....70% of the LSE intake (incl. post-grads) is from overseas.....75% of UCL students on 16 post-grad courses are Chinese (and on 3 of them, they are all Chinese). At Imperial College, 50% of undergrads are foreign....and a whole cohort of other Unis are 30%-ish. Loughborough is on record as freezing the number of UK students whilst increasing foreigner numbers. Etc, etc. And elsewhere in the rag, James Dyson notes that even the Philippines is producing three times as many engineering graduates as the UK...and I doubt many of them are foreigners. As in so many areas of Britain today, a ludicrous state of affairs. |
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