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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2022 13:21:22 GMT
Been taking vit C with zinc for years and really believe it has helped minimise the effect of seasonal colds and viruses. This year after reading some of the stuff written about vitamin D and Covid I have been taking this for the past month or so. So far so good. I also believe that fermented foods like kimchi and sauerkraut are an excellent way of boosting your bodies natural defences. Kimchi scrambled eggs are delicious 😋 I take no supplements and have not had *any* kind of cold or flu symptoms since autumn 2019. I simply eat a well balanced diet and as a desk based worker I spend as much as possible of my free time outdoors. Got quite measured with diet through 2020 as wanted to reduce meat consumption (actually gone vegetarian in the end) without just simply substituting the horrible "fake meat" stuff and without ending up like a skinny ill looking vegetarian from 30 years ago. Agree on kimchi.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2022 13:23:24 GMT
Or maintain a properly balanced diet and get all the vitamins and nutrients you need without having to blow the bank and become reliant on tubs of supplements just to keep on the straight. You say that, but they're so cheap now, it's a no brainer and a good way of ensuring you're getting the required RDA of everything. My "Immune 4" is under £5 for 120 tablets, or 2 month's worth. Aldi multivitamins are peanuts. But why bother taking a supplement if you're up to and beyond your RDA anyway with regular food?! Most vitamins once you get to a certain level there is no benefit to having more, and actually some negatives.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Feb 3, 2022 13:47:11 GMT
You say that, but they're so cheap now, it's a no brainer and a good way of ensuring you're getting the required RDA of everything. My "Immune 4" is under £5 for 120 tablets, or 2 month's worth. Aldi multivitamins are peanuts. But why bother taking a supplement if you're up to and beyond your RDA anyway with regular food?!Most vitamins once you get to a certain level there is no benefit to having more, and actually some negatives. And you can guarantee your Vit D K2, Selenium, Zinc and Iron intake can you? You can guarantee your diet ALWAYS gives you 100% RDA of all the vitamins and minerals you need? Good for you. I can't be as sure as you and don't scientifically measure all I eat to get a true figure. The majority of people now, do not eat a healthy, balanced diet. We're not in the meat and 2 veg era anymore. We're in the Vegan KFC Burger, fries and vegan gravy era.
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Post by londontown on Feb 3, 2022 14:07:41 GMT
I take Vitamins D plus K2, C, and Zinc, plus CBD Oils. Everyone should be taking Vitamins D and K2 at least just now. There is no excuse not to now given that one study last year revealed 80% of Covid hospital admissions were low on it. Or maintain a properly balanced diet and get all the vitamins and nutrients you need without having to blow the bank and become reliant on tubs of supplements just to keep on the straight. Diet is very important, but the Sun is one of the best sources of Vitamin D. How is life in sunny Yorkshire just now? Are you slapping on Factor 15 every day? Also, the body has its own cannabinoid system, but very little is made from Hemp these days. We used to make paper and rope from it, in addition to adding it into food stuffs. Not many people are eating enough fruit and veg, and nuts and berries, these days. Fair play to those who do. A lot of processed foods are as toxic as they are lacking in nutrition.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Feb 3, 2022 14:26:07 GMT
If there's one group who need vitamin and mineral supplements, it's recent "vegetarians".
I say "vegetarian" in inverted commas, as when I worked at a chef, it wasn't that uncommon for people ask for chicken as they claimed to be "vegetarian". I kid you not.
Keeping eating fish may help, but at the end of the day, our protein and iron intake was designed to be via meat, not tofu.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2022 16:53:14 GMT
But why bother taking a supplement if you're up to and beyond your RDA anyway with regular food?!Most vitamins once you get to a certain level there is no benefit to having more, and actually some negatives. And you can guarantee your Vit D K2, Selenium, Zinc and Iron intake can you? You can guarantee your diet ALWAYS gives you 100% RDA of all the vitamins and minerals you need? Good for you. I can't be as sure as you and don't scientifically measure all I eat to get a true figure. The majority of people now, do not eat a healthy, balanced diet. We're not in the meat and 2 veg era anymore. We're in the Vegan KFC Burger, fries and vegan gravy era. Yup, at my annual health check I get Vitamin B12, Folate, Vitamin D & Ferritin tests in amongst everything else...when I did cut down and cut out meat (had gone to only chicken and fish in the previous 5 years or so), I did take full care to ensure protein intake especially was kept up...as one of the things I do in my spare time is sufficient long running that I regularly run ultra marathon distances. But yeah - I do agree that probably a large proportion of society (vegetarian or otherwise) probably DO need to take supplements. But to suggest there's no good reason not to, or to suggest everyone should, is plain wrong.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Feb 3, 2022 20:57:08 GMT
I never understand why vegetarians and vegans feel the need to announce it to everyone.
I don’t remember omnivores declaring their status at every opportunity.
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 3, 2022 22:21:30 GMT
I never understand why vegetarians and vegans feel the need to announce it to everyone. I don’t remember omnivores declaring their status at every opportunity. Because they are better than me and you, saving the earth and harm to all animals. *thats my experience, normally vegans really though
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Post by gingerbreadman on Feb 3, 2022 22:49:38 GMT
My sister's a veggie and when she last had a meal at our house a while ago we naturally cooked vegetarian (otherwise she'd have gone hungry and I hate wasting food) yet when I've eaten at her house I've only ever been offered vegatarian food. Seems a bit unfair to me.
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Post by sabre on Feb 3, 2022 23:27:51 GMT
My sister's a veggie and when she last had a meal at our house a while ago we naturally cooked vegetarian (otherwise she'd have gone hungry and I hate wasting food) yet when I've eaten at her house I've only ever been offered vegatarian food. Seems a bit unfair to me. I’m not a vegetarian but I like vegetarian food. Went out recently for a Monday night carvery, everyone got stuck into the meat and veg but I had a veggie cottage pie and it was banging. There’s definitely room for both veggie and meat dishes in my opinion and I would add that because vegetarian dishes are just that they tend to add more spice/ flavourings…. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Post by gingerbreadman on Feb 4, 2022 0:12:17 GMT
My sister's a veggie and when she last had a meal at our house a while ago we naturally cooked vegetarian (otherwise she'd have gone hungry and I hate wasting food) yet when I've eaten at her house I've only ever been offered vegatarian food. Seems a bit unfair to me. I’m not a vegetarian but I like vegetarian food. Went out recently for a Monday night carvery, everyone got stuck into the meat and veg but I had a veggie cottage pie and it was banging. There’s definitely room for both veggie and meat dishes in my opinion and I would add that because vegetarian dishes are just that they tend to add more spice/ flavourings…. Whatever floats your boat I guess. I'm not saying I don't like vegetarian food, far from it and I'm sat here farting away merrily as I digest the cauliflower and chick pea curry I had for tea tonight. We eat very little meat in the gingerbread household but what amuses me is how we omnivores feel the need to accommodate vegetarians but not the other way round.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Feb 4, 2022 8:35:58 GMT
The problem is, the same people who are militant about the never identical Climate, tend to be militant about vegetarianism and veganism too. Much like we're being blackmailed into environment damaging, CO2 disaster electric cars, we're also being coerced away from meat.
I don't like being told how to live my life by the establishment, via the bought media.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 14:58:57 GMT
The problem is, the same people who are militant about the never identical Climate, tend to be militant about vegetarianism and veganism too. Much like we're being blackmailed into environment damaging, CO2 disaster electric cars, we're also being coerced away from meat. I don't like being told how to live my life by the establishment, via the bought media. And yet the only people being militant about vegetarianism on this thread are people who aren’t! 🤷♂️😂 Generally though you’re right…vegetarians and vegans do have a tendency to sing their virtues potentially as some kind of self affirmation.
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Post by londontown on Feb 4, 2022 15:29:46 GMT
Whenever I go into a restaurant I can't help myself blurting out 'Cauliflower' or 'Broccoli'.
I think I might have Florets.
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