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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 31, 2022 10:09:29 GMT
I didnt deny it. I said- 'Maybe there is a link and the vaccine is causing a problem in a minute amount of people? ' I just take it with a bit of a pinch of salt when its come from the same people who have made such ridiculously false claims about these vaccines in the past, such as they offer zero protection and make you MORE likely to catch covid.Thats the problem with making ridiculous claims.. even if you potentially have a justified one, people tend to dismiss it as more of the same. Ah, so the ONS are conspiracy theorists too now then? Only their figures show triple pricked as over twice as likely in RATE to be infected. You've been shown this several times but any criticism of the vaccines falls on deaf ears from vaccine regretters. If the vaccine worked as we were promised, Covid would be long gone, as it is in the countries who didn't fall for the vaccine scam. Here, the best shot we have now, is not carrying on with this 8 weekly nonsense obsolete clot shot, it's to allow as many as possible to get infected with this weak variant and develop, real, effective natural immunity, which actually works for a change. Why do you think the government is lowering all restrictions, when we're apparently still at 300 deaths and 100,000 infections on average a day, even with lower testing? Wake up. Bangadeshi's in the UK make up the largest demographic for deaths and infection, yet Bangladeshi's in actual Bangladesh, with barely any vaccines, have less than 10% of the cases and deaths that the triple vaxxed UK has. Israel, one of the highest and fasted vaccinated countries on Earth, also has one of the highest infection rates. Gibraltar is THE most vaccinated place on the planet, claiming over 99% fully vaccinated. It's currently 3rd highest for infection out of 225 countries. Most of unvaccinated Africa is lower than 150 in the chart. Explain that. You've been had mate. Mis sold a medical treatment to line the pockets of the rich. Gates Foundation has over $200BN in large pharma stocks.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 31, 2022 10:20:45 GMT
Isn't it funny how the third world was barely touched by "CoViD" and the virus created apparent Armageddon in rich countries who could line large pharmaceutical's pockets with hundreds of billions of $$$. I'm amazed people are still feeding the EasyTedder troll. Yeah its crazy how countries with much much younger populations have been less effected by a virus that almost exclusively effects old people. Or how populations that spend a lot more time outside arent as effected by a virus that spreads far more easily inside. Its almost as mad as how rich countries who can afford to do an enormous amount of testing have found way more cases too. Ah, that old Vaccine Regretters chestnut of an excuse....Straight out of the Ladybird book of "Feeling better about vaccine regret". It sounds convincing enough, but falls over when life expectancy in Bangladesh is only 6 years on average less than the UK and yet they've had less than 10% of UK cases, even when in the UK, something about their their cultural heritage puts them at the highest risk of all demographics. 9 times less infection, from a country with a 0.8% "booster" (Same sh1te given twice already, just renamed to make it sound more appealing) take up.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 31, 2022 10:39:00 GMT
I see the doctors and nurses look like being let off, thank goodness for that.
The figures quoted in the article are startling.
After 20 weeks your double jab has effectively given up. 10 weeks after your third jab that starts to go the same way.
When is someone in power going to call this shit out.
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Post by niggled on Jan 31, 2022 11:02:57 GMT
Isn't it funny how the third world was barely touched by "CoViD" and the virus created apparent Armageddon in rich countries who could line large pharmaceutical's pockets with hundreds of billions of $$$. I'm amazed people are still feeding the EasyTedder troll. Yeah its crazy how countries with much much younger populations have been less effected by a virus that almost exclusively effects old people. Or how populations that spend a lot more time outside arent as effected by a virus that spreads far more easily inside. Its almost as mad as how rich countries who can afford to do an enormous amount of testing have found way more cases too. NO , it does not almost exclusively effect old people. It affects all ages, but so does the common cold . Rich countries that have vaccinated healthy people and tested more people have more deaths than people in country's where poverty is a way of life. BECAUSE, they live outside. Really.
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Post by scutcher on Jan 31, 2022 11:27:52 GMT
I didnt deny it. I said- 'Maybe there is a link and the vaccine is causing a problem in a minute amount of people? ' I just take it with a bit of a pinch of salt when its come from the same people who have made such ridiculously false claims about these vaccines in the past, such as they offer zero protection and make you MORE likely to catch covid.Thats the problem with making ridiculous claims.. even if you potentially have a justified one, people tend to dismiss it as more of the same. Ah, so the ONS are conspiracy theorists too now then? Only their figures show triple pricked as over twice as likely in RATE to be infected. You've been shown this several times but any criticism of the vaccines falls on deaf ears from vaccine regretters. If the vaccine worked as we were promised, Covid would be long gone, as it is in the countries who didn't fall for the vaccine scam. Here, the best shot we have now, is not carrying on with this 8 weekly nonsense obsolete clot shot, it's to allow as many as possible to get infected with this weak variant and develop, real, effective natural immunity, which actually works for a change. Why do you think the government is lowering all restrictions, when we're apparently still at 300 deaths and 100,000 infections on average a day, even with lower testing? Wake up. Bangadeshi's in the UK make up the largest demographic for deaths and infection, yet Bangladeshi's in actual Bangladesh, with barely any vaccines, have less than 10% of the cases and deaths that the triple vaxxed UK has. Israel, one of the highest and fasted vaccinated countries on Earth, also has one of the highest infection rates. Gibraltar is THE most vaccinated place on the planet, claiming over 99% fully vaccinated. It's currently 3rd highest for infection out of 225 countries. Most of unvaccinated Africa is lower than 150 in the chart. Explain that. You've been had mate. Mis sold a medical treatment to line the pockets of the rich. Gates Foundation has over $200BN in large pharma stocks. Don’t forget Antarctica!
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Post by captslapper on Jan 31, 2022 11:40:40 GMT
Yeah its crazy how countries with much much younger populations have been less effected by a virus that almost exclusively effects old people. Or how populations that spend a lot more time outside arent as effected by a virus that spreads far more easily inside. Its almost as mad as how rich countries who can afford to do an enormous amount of testing have found way more cases too. Ah, that old Vaccine Regretters chestnut of an excuse....Straight out of the Ladybird book of "Feeling better about vaccine regret". It sounds convincing enough, but falls over when life expectancy in Bangladesh is only 6 years on average less than the UK and yet they've had less than 10% of UK cases, even when in the UK, something about their their cultural heritage puts them at the highest risk of all demographics. 9 times less infection, from a country with a 0.8% "booster" (Same sh1te given twice already, just renamed to make it sound more appealing) take up. Were not talking about life expectancy. We're talking about the age of the population. If you want to use Bangladesh as an example... Bangladesh 27.6 years old UK 40.6 years old. Its disease that almost exclusively is dangerous to old people. We know that. As for number of cases. Be serious! Bangladesh does 12-15,000 tests a day for a population of 168m Uk has been doing 1.5m tests a day for a population of 65m www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31819-5/fulltextWho do you think is going to find the most cases?? You know what it is about their cultural heritage that puts them at the greatest risk in the UK??.. THEY HAVE A LOW VACCINE TAKE UP!!!!!
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Post by captslapper on Jan 31, 2022 11:51:41 GMT
Yeah its crazy how countries with much much younger populations have been less effected by a virus that almost exclusively effects old people. Or how populations that spend a lot more time outside arent as effected by a virus that spreads far more easily inside. Its almost as mad as how rich countries who can afford to do an enormous amount of testing have found way more cases too. NO , it does not almost exclusively effect old people. It affects all ages, but so does the common cold . Rich countries that have vaccinated healthy people and tested more people have more deaths than people in country's where poverty is a way of life. BECAUSE, they live outside. Really. In terms of death and serious illness, it does almost exclusively effect old people. The caveat being people with serious illnesses but the vast majority of those are also older. We know that the more testing you do the more cases you find. And in terms of the dead, the more you can add to that list too because they had been tested in the previous month. It was only said on here the other day how low the actual 'killed by covid' figure is, ignoring all this 'death within 28 days of a positive test' bollocks. Third world countries barely do any testing. If you barely do any testing, you dont find many cases regardless of how much covid there is. You can't use our huge testing figures as an argument for how artificially inflated our cases and deaths figures are, and then in the same breath use the same artificially inflated figures as an argument for how badly effected by covid cases and deaths we are!! Which is basically what the anti vaxxers are trying to do. You can have it one way or the other but not both!
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 31, 2022 12:02:17 GMT
Ah, that old Vaccine Regretters chestnut of an excuse....Straight out of the Ladybird book of "Feeling better about vaccine regret". It sounds convincing enough, but falls over when life expectancy in Bangladesh is only 6 years on average less than the UK and yet they've had less than 10% of UK cases, even when in the UK, something about their their cultural heritage puts them at the highest risk of all demographics. 9 times less infection, from a country with a 0.8% "booster" (Same sh1te given twice already, just renamed to make it sound more appealing) take up. Were not talking about life expectancy. We're talking about the age of the population. If you want to use Bangladesh as an example... Bangladesh 27.6 years old UK 40.6 years old. Its disease that almost exclusively is dangerous to old people. We know that. As for number of cases. Be serious! Bangladesh does 12-15,000 tests a day for a population of 168m Uk has been doing 1.5m tests a day for a population of 65m www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31819-5/fulltextWho do you think is going to find the most cases?? You know what it is about their cultural heritage that puts them at the greatest risk in the UK??.. THEY HAVE A LOW VACCINE TAKE UP!!!!! We can compare metrics all day long. At the end of the day, only countries with high vaccination rates have high infection rates. Gibraltar is a superb example, as is Israel. The trend of the higher the vaccines distribution, the most infections, is quite obvious.
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Post by londontown on Jan 31, 2022 12:15:36 GMT
No genuine Town supporter would use the tragic death of a former player to try to push an anti-vaxx agenda, based on nothing but speculation and unsubstantiated theories that hinge on "information" from some dubious, scarcely-credible sources - and a whole load of supposition. For shame. To describe those who express concerns about the growing number of young heart attack victims as 'anti-vaxxers' is a cheap shot. Shameful indeed.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 31, 2022 12:22:13 GMT
Don't feed the TedLover troll.
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Post by londontown on Jan 31, 2022 12:39:53 GMT
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Post by gingerbreadman on Jan 31, 2022 14:08:42 GMT
If I was Sunderland's keeper I'd be having heart palpation's over a defence that conceded 6 against lowly Bolton on Saturday.
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Post by captslapper on Jan 31, 2022 14:58:35 GMT
Were not talking about life expectancy. We're talking about the age of the population. If you want to use Bangladesh as an example... Bangladesh 27.6 years old UK 40.6 years old. Its disease that almost exclusively is dangerous to old people. We know that. As for number of cases. Be serious! Bangladesh does 12-15,000 tests a day for a population of 168m Uk has been doing 1.5m tests a day for a population of 65m www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31819-5/fulltextWho do you think is going to find the most cases?? You know what it is about their cultural heritage that puts them at the greatest risk in the UK??.. THEY HAVE A LOW VACCINE TAKE UP!!!!! We can compare metrics all day long. At the end of the day, only countries with high vaccination rates have high infection rates. Gibraltar is a superb example, as is Israel. The trend of the higher the vaccines distribution, the most infections, is quite obvious. That is such a crazy way of looking at this. Countries who do VASTLY more testing ( wealthy 1st world countries ) are going to find VASTLY more cases than countries who barely do any testing at all ( poor 3rd world countries ) Trying to make out that its because they are more vaccinated is ludicrous! There are lots of factors in the spread of cases. Population density... How much time they spend outside as apose to sat in offices and on crowded tube trains etc... How much migration there is into and out of an area. When it comes to death and serious illness, how old and frail the population is. But when it comes to finding cases, how much actual looking for cases each country does is the most obvious one! If we did the same testing that Bangladesh does pro-rata we'd be doing about 5000 tests a day in the whole of the UK, not 1,500,000 !! And you know what, the number of cases we'd find would drop through the floor to be about 250 a day, and thats even at the peak of the omicron wave we've just been through!! But to you, this isnt because of testing.. its because we're more vaccinated than them!! Honestly its laughable.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 31, 2022 15:31:31 GMT
It might surprise you to know that India has taken the second largest number of tests, behind the US, but above us with almost twice as many tests carried out. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countriesThe country who used Ivermectin instead of allowing Pfizer to hatchet job it so they could flog their 100 times more expensive rehash, also has only around 15% of the recorded cases and deaths that the UK has, even with almost twice as many tests being carried out. Next.....
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 31, 2022 15:50:43 GMT
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