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Post by foxtrot777 on Jan 18, 2022 11:48:31 GMT
100,000 Russian troops on the border with Ukraine, obviously not just a military exercise, will this really turn into a war ? Tension seems to be rising with Britain supplying troops for training and weapons to Ukraine, should we be worried ? hopefully sense will prevail.
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Post by realmadkid on Jan 18, 2022 12:12:01 GMT
100,000 Russian troops on the border with Ukraine, obviously not just a military exercise, will this really turn into a war ? Tension seems to be rising with Britain supplying troops for training and weapons to Ukraine, should we be worried ? hopefully sense will prevail. Just 'sabre rattling' would be my guess mate. Too much at stake to turn into a full-blown war. But what the mainstream media aren't telling us of course is that the Crimea region (which is what its all about) voted 99.5% in favour of being part of Russia again.
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Post by digs on Jan 18, 2022 12:15:05 GMT
Would all the Nato members be involved?
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Post by londontown on Jan 18, 2022 12:20:57 GMT
Biden might be senile, but I don't think he wants a war with Russia. He and his son Hunter have too much invested in the Ukraine, of course, hence the recent scandal. Killary Clinton took sabre rattling to a whole new level, even describing Putin as the new Hitler. If she was in power we might have been at war by now. Small mercies.
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Post by londontown on Jan 18, 2022 12:22:04 GMT
Would all the Nato members be involved? To some extent, yes.
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Post by foxtrot777 on Jan 18, 2022 12:38:50 GMT
Would all the Nato members be involved? To some extent, yes. I don't think Ukraine is a full member of NATO (might be wrong) although some deals have been signed. What do we reckon the west would do IF the Russians invaded ?
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 18, 2022 13:52:32 GMT
I love how the press conveniently ignore the massive forces NATO and the EU Battlegroup have been amassing for years, just this side of the Russian border.
Every willy waving "training exercise" is done within view of Russia.
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Post by realmadkid on Jan 18, 2022 14:28:00 GMT
I don't think Ukraine is a full member of NATO (might be wrong) although some deals have been signed. What do we reckon the west would do IF the Russians invaded ? Last few times the Russians have invaded places - absolutely nothing was done apart from mumblings, grumblings and vague threats of sanctions etc. Stakes are too high for WW3 to break out IMO. Unless maybe they believe the vaccines haven’t been effective enough in reducing the surplus population! 😀😀
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Post by sabre on Jan 18, 2022 14:48:27 GMT
Putin is too smart to have a conventional war. He knows he would lose. He’ll posture for a while but their real strength is gas and also cyber warfare.
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Post by realmadkid on Jan 18, 2022 15:30:18 GMT
Putin is too smart to have a conventional war. He knows he would lose. He’ll posture for a while but their real strength is gas and also cyber warfare. I would hope he's too smart to instigate a nuclear one too, mate!
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 18, 2022 16:12:40 GMT
I'm not entirely sure why the EU especially are trying to p1ss him off so much. I know there's a lot of hoo-har over these gas pipelines, but without Russian gas imports, it's going to get bloody cold in Winter in Europe.
I'm guessing he's only trying to annex Ukraine to keep his naval port accessible from the Med, at a time where NATO and the newly formed EU Battlegroup are amassing forces on his borders.
If we're going to start worrying about any country and their ability to attack the West, then China are well and truly at the top of that list. Anyone who still thinks Covid wasn't a deliberate stunt to gain power over the West is deluded now.
It's been proved to be lab created and nothing to do with a bat market. The question is, why were the US giving millions to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study "Bat Coronavirus and how it can be spread to humans". More to the point, why did the WHO allow China to lie to them for weeks, after knowing of it's release into the wild and why did they wait a year, to carry out a half 4rsed cover up investigation, where half the WHO team were Chinese CCP officers?
As a result of it, China has netted many hundreds of billions revenue from selling the West PPE and testing kits, on top of the power they've gained buying Western stocks at knock down prices. They make the virus then sell you the PPE and test kits. You've got to laugh. It's like a glazier smashing your window then charging you to fix it.
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Post by Wilsonwilson on Jan 18, 2022 22:52:55 GMT
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Post by terriergirl on Jan 21, 2022 19:58:44 GMT
EU/USA/NATO want to extend their Empire, there is an historical precedent. As usual poor people will suffer, China will make a profit and the Empire will regret their sabre rattling.
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Post by captslapper on Jan 22, 2022 0:13:54 GMT
So its the EU. USA and NATO rattling their sabre and trying to expand their empire.. not the Russians?
If the Eu wanted Ukraine to be a member they could have welcomed them in donkeys years ago as theyre keen to join, but they dont, because its a poor economic performer and it would cause huge problems with Russia. Same goes for NATO. Theres only one side rattling their sabre here that I can see.
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Post by foxtrot777 on Jan 24, 2022 14:23:00 GMT
Britain withdrawing half our embassy staff from Kyiv and the US ordering relatives of embassy staff to leave. Nato alliance members sending more fighter planes and warships to the region, it's all getting a bit tense.
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