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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 12:22:31 GMT
Facial recognition is tracking Comrade citizens in London from today, which only penalises genuine, registered citizens, not the anywhere up to a million there illegally and off the radar.
Remember, Big Brother is watching you.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 12:48:22 GMT
Like most things in London though, it either doesn't effect or is introduced to benefit a certain growing culture.
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If you ever go on public transport, under no circumstances should you make eye contact with anyone.
Yes, this is very real. I saw them when I was there for Fulham the other week.
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What is society coming to?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 14:39:32 GMT
Facial recognition is tracking Comrade citizens in London from today, which only penalises genuine, registered citizens, not the anywhere up to a million there illegally and off the radar. Remember, Big Brother is watching you. Genuine question, but how specifically does facial recognition tracking PENALISE people? Why am I bothered if my face is scanned, compared against a database somewhere (passport / driving license / criminal records?), and then ignored because I'm not 'wanted'?? Same with ANPR. And manually monitored CCTV. Why should I care that my entry and exit through public places is PASSIVELY monitored?? Its not as though there's someone creating a queue and physically checking ID before you're allowed to go into the Trafford Centre (although that would be a bonus). Do you spoof your IP via a VPN to prevent being tracked online? If so, why?? |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 14:52:13 GMT
Facial recognition is tracking Comrade citizens in London from today, which only penalises genuine, registered citizens, not the anywhere up to a million there illegally and off the radar. Remember, Big Brother is watching you. Genuine question, but how specifically does facial recognition tracking PENALISE people? Why am I bothered if my face is scanned, compared against a database somewhere (passport / driving license / criminal records?), and then ignored because I'm not 'wanted'?? Same with ANPR. Why should I care that my entry and exit through public places is PASSIVELY monitored?? Its not as though there's someone creating a queue and physically checking ID before you're allowed to go into the Trafford Centre (although that would be a bonus). Do you spoof your IP via a VPN to prevent being tracked online? If so, why?? What's your real name and address? No? Why not? Put your entire weekly movements on here, for anyone to see. Imagine if burglars pay staff with access, to sneak out info, Employers pay to use it to check for sickies, the government to fine people "protesting" (not following state control) or not being where they should be. The problem with this is it opens a whole new can of worms with regards to state control. It only works with people on the system and with a right to be here. Not only does it not work with people here illegally, or those who hide their identity claiming religious reasons, it presumes guilt, rather than permitting or enabling an automatic right to privacy and assumed innocence. This digital world we're sleepwalking into will be controlled by people who themselves will never be subject to such constraints, as they are the architects. China is a great example of where we are heading. The Vaccine Pass app was so much more and has so much more potential for a controlling state. It would be so simple to add features via updates, which could be linked with central bank digital currency. At this point the government knows who you are, where you are, what you're doing, what you spend your money on. At this point you've now lost ALL freedoms. The government can dictate what you can and can't do, as they already do in Cheeeina, with the citizen scoring app. I really don't see why so many to the left are so keen on this horrible shift to Global Socialism, which is getting nearer and nearer to Orwell's 1984. Do you spoof your IP via a VPN to prevent being tracked online? If so, why?? Because Big Hermano keeps banning my normal IP's.  |
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Post by chedtippington on Mar 10, 2022 15:26:31 GMT
Wunda why
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 15:34:47 GMT
What's your real name and address? No? Why not? Put your entire weekly movements on here, for anyone to see. Imagine if burglars pay staff with access, to sneak out info, Employers pay to use it to check for sickies, the government to fine people "protesting" (not following state control) or not being where they should be. The problem with this is it opens a whole new can of worms with regards to state control. I really don't see why so many to the left are so keen on this horrible shift to Global Socialism, which is getting nearer and nearer to Orwell's 1984. Do you spoof your IP via a VPN to prevent being tracked online? If so, why?? Because Big Hermano keeps banning my normal IP's.  Well my entire daily movements dating back to April 2011 are available to 'the man' already, since I leave Location Tracking enabled on Google...as I find it personally useful. Obviously there's a risk that those movements could potentially get into the wrong hands, but I fail to see what value someone would have knowing that this day 5 years ago I drove to Salford and back, drove into Hudds, spent time in the Chilli Lounge, drove home, and then walked for 30mins. Likewise I share a reasonable amount of my movement data relatively publicly through platforms like Strava, Facebook etc. Yes, there's a risk someone could obtain the data (and that of my partner and kids) and deep-dive and work out when our home is likely to be totally empty (pretty much *never*) to burgle us. But its not a risk I'm particularly worried about - the convenience and access to shared-interest communities that I'm part of outweighs that risk. So - you've been banned by someone who has the right to ban you from their platform, and use IP spoofing to circumvent controls - can you not see what is wrong here - you encourage the trend towards even more sophisticated tracking which personalises your data. Likewise, you're legitimising 'pulling a sicky' - when quite rightly people doing that SHOULD be caught and punished - as a differentiator from their working peers who are not stealing from their employers. I'm not aware of 'fines for legal protesting', and I've no idea what you mean about people "not being where they should be". If I'm somewhere I shouldn't be (can't think of many places, other than inside private property that I'm not invited onto), then why should my whereabouts be protected?? You're basically saying you don't want tracking because some people who are doing things they shouldn't be might get found out? If you get banned from driving your car because its deemed unsafe to pass an MOT, you can't just go, "oh its ok, I'll just put a fake plate on, using the mark from a car that is following the rules"...without expecting to get punished even further. PS - I have never voted for, or actively supported a left leaning political party, although I did once buy a copy of Socialist Worker when I was at Poly in the 1980's. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 15:46:37 GMT
clappyhapper - of course, I fully understand why you specifically would not want facial recognition on our streets, and I support your right to protest that. Maybe you should wear a face covering? 😳 However, I don't really care about its impact on me, or the kind of people that might see a negative impact, and where this ultimately might lead to is also not something that massively concerns me, and I can see many benefits to society in the future that could be delivered as this and related technologies mature - so please respect others right to have the opinion that this is actually a good thing / or something they don't really care about either way - without aggressively ramming your thoughts repeatedly down anyones ears/eyes as though they are 'the one truth' and any contrary opinion are the thoughts of a simpleton lunatic.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 16:33:35 GMT
Well my entire daily movements dating back to April 2011 are available to 'the man' already, since I leave Location Tracking enabled on Google...as I find it personally useful. Did you realise Google sell this data on to retailers? It might sound daft but in certain countries already (not sure if it's here yet), electronic billboards in shops are linked to Google Analytics. They know who's approaching and will adjust the advert to suit you. You may be blasé about this, until you're walking past with the Mrs and an advert for the Anal Invader 2000 Dildo pops up, or some other Internet history you don't want making public. It's a fine line and gradually our privacy and freedoms are being eroded by large tech, who are building massively detailed online profiles of people without their knowledge. Maybe it's because my job is in IT, but the way companies like Google and Microsoft are behaving lately is scary stuff and intrusive. You would not believe the info we are supposed to give now to setup a PC for Windows, with an Office install and Google. When most of my customers don't even know what user will be using the PC, I have to jump through hoops bluffing the supposed user and recording all details in case we're asked in the future. Everyone has an opinion and the majority now seem perfectly fine with more government control. I just didn't see this shift happen. I've always grown up wanting less government control over those here legally, paying taxes and contributing to society. I've always wanted the government to concentrate on chasing and tracking the ones who aren't here legally, are not contributing or fitting in, not the ones who are. It seems now, this government who got in power on promises such as getting a grip on uncontrolled immigration, have now turned into Net Zero puppets ruled by someone from higher up the chain. They're throwing benefits around like sweets, increasing taxes until life quality is reduced to just above zero and wont be happy until half the planet live here. In the last 12 months, they've invited over 3 million Honk Kong residents permanent citizenship, on top of countless Afghan's and now Ukrainians. This is on top of the illegal rubber boat VIP's, which at the current rate of increases, could top 100,000 this year. This is not a Tory government and I really don't believe they're pulling these strings anymore. |
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Post by londontown on Mar 10, 2022 16:33:56 GMT
Facial recognition is tracking Comrade citizens in London from today, which only penalises genuine, registered citizens, not the anywhere up to a million there illegally and off the radar. Remember, Big Brother is watching you. It has been utilized for a long time, as I am sure you are well aware. In china fines are taken straight from your bank account for trivialities like jay walking. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 16:41:48 GMT
...And your citizen score lowered meaning you may not have a high enough score be allowed to have children, or go to a certain social event etc, as I'm sure you're already aware of too. All these people thinking it wont happen to us are deluded. Sunak PLC even used the same firm who made their Citizen Tracking and Scoring App, to produce out "NHS Vaccine Passport only honest gov" app. In 5 years time, we'll all be on a Citizen ID app, cash will be gone and all currency will be electronic and fully controlled by central banks. If you're a bad boy, don't salute to the Great Leader, you'll not be allowed any pocket money to socialise. In Cheeeina, your Internet speed is throttled if you're not deemed Communist enough, or you're banned from flying or travelling. These "Govern Me Harder, Daddy" sheep, need to really wake up and fast, because this is where the world is heading under large tech, media control. www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4?r=US&IR=T |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 16:45:34 GMT
Well my entire daily movements dating back to April 2011 are available to 'the man' already, since I leave Location Tracking enabled on Google...as I find it personally useful. Did you realise Google sell this data on to retailers? Yes. Not a concern for me - you seem to worry about a lot of things that have no real significance. |
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Post by captslapper on Mar 10, 2022 18:44:04 GMT
Isn't deploying facial recognition at Westminster just a sensible security measure?
It is quite an obvious target for terrorists!
If the technology exists Im amazed it isn't already in use.
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 19:50:53 GMT
Isn't deploying facial recognition at Westminster just a sensible security measure? It is quite an obvious target for terrorists! If the technology exists Im amazed it isn't already in use. Yes, of course. All criminals and terrorists have up to date passports and photos supplied to the government. None are here and off the radar like the other 5 million or so. It targets and only works against law abiding, genuine registered citizens, Trigger. |
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Post by clappyhapper on Mar 10, 2022 19:52:25 GMT
Did you realise Google sell this data on to retailers? Yes. Not a concern for me - you seem to worry about a lot of things that have no real significance. Says the bloke who posts under an alias to keep his real life identity hidden.....  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 20:05:09 GMT
Yes. Not a concern for me - you seem to worry about a lot of things that have no real significance. Says the bloke who posts under an alias to keep his real life identity hidden.....  Thats not the reason I post under an alias at all...its simply because its the convention on DATM and I just used the same username on here, as that seemed the done thing back when this all started up. I use my real name on a number of other public forums where thats what people do. |
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